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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://rockwatching.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/top-secret-cave-in-ontario/#comment-7746</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyendinaga Cave is the youngest show cave of Canada, opened to the public in 2008. It is located on a property on Harmony Road, Tyendinaga, Ontario, which was purchased by Charles Koch and his wife Elizabeth in 1994. The couple started to explore its property and soon Charles Koch started to develop Tyendinaga Cave after he had sealed the natural entrance. The biggest cave was Tyendinaga Cave, some 100m long with a chamber at a depth of 12m, which is 7m high and thus said to be one of the largest chambers in Ontario. They discovered various caves, do-lines and other karst features.

This cave had a sinkhole, a karst window in the middle of a field, as its natural entrance, which allowed easy access to both cold air and locals. As a result the cave was often ice filled during winter and spring, which ended abruptly when the cave entrance was sealed. Locals used the cave for purposes like feasting, the new owners had to remove trash including empty beer bottles. But many of the graffiti in the cave are of historic interest. The oldest one with a date is from 1817, another one from 1905. There are numerous initials and dates. But unfortunately there are also traces of vandalism, like stalactites broken off by visitors. As a result the conversion into a show cave also protects the cave.
http://www.tyendinagacaves.blogspot.com/
This is about a 20 min drive from Belleville, Ontario</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyendinaga Cave is the youngest show cave of Canada, opened to the public in 2008. It is located on a property on Harmony Road, Tyendinaga, Ontario, which was purchased by Charles Koch and his wife Elizabeth in 1994. The couple started to explore its property and soon Charles Koch started to develop Tyendinaga Cave after he had sealed the natural entrance. The biggest cave was Tyendinaga Cave, some 100m long with a chamber at a depth of 12m, which is 7m high and thus said to be one of the largest chambers in Ontario. They discovered various caves, do-lines and other karst features.</p>
<p>This cave had a sinkhole, a karst window in the middle of a field, as its natural entrance, which allowed easy access to both cold air and locals. As a result the cave was often ice filled during winter and spring, which ended abruptly when the cave entrance was sealed. Locals used the cave for purposes like feasting, the new owners had to remove trash including empty beer bottles. But many of the graffiti in the cave are of historic interest. The oldest one with a date is from 1817, another one from 1905. There are numerous initials and dates. But unfortunately there are also traces of vandalism, like stalactites broken off by visitors. As a result the conversion into a show cave also protects the cave.<br />
<a href="http://www.tyendinagacaves.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tyendinagacaves.blogspot.com/</a><br />
This is about a 20 min drive from Belleville, Ontario</p>
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		<title>By: rockwatching</title>
		<link>http://rockwatching.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/top-secret-cave-in-ontario/#comment-7599</link>
		<dc:creator>rockwatching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Peter. I will check the link out right now. I am presently involved with a friend on searching out numerous caves and sinkholes in an area of Ontario that was previously somewhat unknown to cavers. Hope that brings some luck - it looks promising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Peter. I will check the link out right now. I am presently involved with a friend on searching out numerous caves and sinkholes in an area of Ontario that was previously somewhat unknown to cavers. Hope that brings some luck &#8211; it looks promising.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://rockwatching.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/top-secret-cave-in-ontario/#comment-7597</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found the following link to the study that was completed on this cave.
&quot;http://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/mines/ogs/ims/pub/sfw/sfwpdf/6226-35.pdf&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found the following link to the study that was completed on this cave.<br />
&#8220;http://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/mines/ogs/ims/pub/sfw/sfwpdf/6226-35.pdf&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: uknow</title>
		<link>http://rockwatching.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/top-secret-cave-in-ontario/#comment-7574</link>
		<dc:creator>uknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 00:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey...make a post !!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey&#8230;make a post !!! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rockwatching</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockwatching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 00:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear from you Greg. I&#039;ve been out of the loop lately, work is all-consuming. Hopefully this summer I can make a better effort caving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear from you Greg. I&#8217;ve been out of the loop lately, work is all-consuming. Hopefully this summer I can make a better effort caving.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg W.</title>
		<link>http://rockwatching.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/top-secret-cave-in-ontario/#comment-7566</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mick,

The picture of Root cave above that Corneile D. took when in the cave with Fred U. for the first time, was when she was still living in Ontario. I believe she and Fred were the first ever past the sump.

Root Cave is not &quot;the river cave&quot; that Caveman speaks of.
Caveman, if you have another nice cave you know of and would like to share, please e-mail Mick about it.  I’m sure he will be discrete.

If you have seen the trashed Hope Bay cave and other&#039;s you would understand why I let the National Park know quickly that they had this gem, that was in need of protecting.  Not that I wanted to keep people out, only the vandals.  And there are the bats that use this cave that didn&#039;t need to be disturbed in winter.  Hope Bay must have been very beautiful at one time.  It&#039;s a sham it wasn&#039;t given some protection also. If it had we could all see the pictures of what must have been very nice Formations.

Parks Canada is not a Conservation area. Park Canada first mandate is to protect natural features not supply recreation, though they do when appropriate.  As I understand it.
There are a few cave scientist that are and have done some work in Root Cave.  If others have some usefull study that could be done they may also get the OK to enter.

I would agree that there is still hope that other caves may one day be found that are also very pretty.  Keep looking and you can be there first!  Remember the biggest; longest, deepest caves of the world and Canada are still not discovered yet!!!  Unlike the tallest mountains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mick,</p>
<p>The picture of Root cave above that Corneile D. took when in the cave with Fred U. for the first time, was when she was still living in Ontario. I believe she and Fred were the first ever past the sump.</p>
<p>Root Cave is not &#8220;the river cave&#8221; that Caveman speaks of.<br />
Caveman, if you have another nice cave you know of and would like to share, please e-mail Mick about it.  I’m sure he will be discrete.</p>
<p>If you have seen the trashed Hope Bay cave and other&#8217;s you would understand why I let the National Park know quickly that they had this gem, that was in need of protecting.  Not that I wanted to keep people out, only the vandals.  And there are the bats that use this cave that didn&#8217;t need to be disturbed in winter.  Hope Bay must have been very beautiful at one time.  It&#8217;s a sham it wasn&#8217;t given some protection also. If it had we could all see the pictures of what must have been very nice Formations.</p>
<p>Parks Canada is not a Conservation area. Park Canada first mandate is to protect natural features not supply recreation, though they do when appropriate.  As I understand it.<br />
There are a few cave scientist that are and have done some work in Root Cave.  If others have some usefull study that could be done they may also get the OK to enter.</p>
<p>I would agree that there is still hope that other caves may one day be found that are also very pretty.  Keep looking and you can be there first!  Remember the biggest; longest, deepest caves of the world and Canada are still not discovered yet!!!  Unlike the tallest mountains.</p>
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		<title>By: rockwatching</title>
		<link>http://rockwatching.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/top-secret-cave-in-ontario/#comment-7455</link>
		<dc:creator>rockwatching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>River Cave? I wonder if you have the location right? Tell me about river cave, I am interested to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>River Cave? I wonder if you have the location right? Tell me about river cave, I am interested to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Caveman</title>
		<link>http://rockwatching.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/top-secret-cave-in-ontario/#comment-7451</link>
		<dc:creator>Caveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above cave is part of the river cave. The largest and best in Ontario. There are many ways in...We pay taxes in canada it is ours...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above cave is part of the river cave. The largest and best in Ontario. There are many ways in&#8230;We pay taxes in canada it is ours&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick question, does the source of the above image have any others they would like to share? Since so many people will never get to see the inside of Root in all it&#039;s glory, it would be nice to have a well documented image library of the cave... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick question, does the source of the above image have any others they would like to share? Since so many people will never get to see the inside of Root in all it&#8217;s glory, it would be nice to have a well documented image library of the cave&#8230; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rockwatching</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockwatching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure - you might notice how cagey I am about location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure &#8211; you might notice how cagey I am about location.</p>
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